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Trouble with Django's Bolero Rhythm?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:13 am
by B25Gib
.....Django's bolero rhythm with the quick DUDU rhythm part of the measure requires a loose wrist obviously, but recently I've found that my worn, somewhat rounded tip Wegen 3.5 mm is much easier to get a consistent rhythm and volume than my thinner 2.5 that I usually play with. So, on Bolero songs, I'll use the 3.5, Simple! I think the white colored Wegens don't wear as quickly as the Black ones either! Anybody else notice the wear correlation to color with Wegens?
......Rocky

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:59 am
by Zoot
They wear the same fore me

Re: Trouble with Django's Bolero Rhythm?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:48 am
by BachelorNo2
B25Gib wrote:.....Django's bolero rhythm with the quick DUDU rhythm part of the measure requires a loose wrist obviously, but recently I've found that my worn, somewhat rounded tip Wegen 3.5 mm is much easier to get a consistent rhythm and volume than my thinner 2.5 that I usually play with. So, on Bolero songs, I'll use the 3.5, Simple! I think the white colored Wegens don't wear as quickly as the Black ones either! Anybody else notice the wear correlation to color with Wegens?
......Rocky


Hi B25Gib. I think the key to playing the Troublant Bolero rhythm is to make sure that the DUDU as you call it sounds confident and on time. I know that I've had trouble getting the DUDU part sounding solid, because as I pratice it, I sometimes have the tendency to make it sound a little half assed. I have yet to try the white wegens, so i can't comment whether they wear quicker than the black ones. My standard on has lasted me for ages but lost it when I was babysitting some kids the other day! grrrrr

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:18 pm
by Elliot
Boleros sound like crap to me with a pick, you don't get that great glissando effect. Using the fingernails is so much cooler, although I'm sure they don't last too long...maybe fingerpicks just for the occasion is the way to go....?

Are you guys using 02214X on the first chord like in the Astuces book? What do you think the Django sub for this would be?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:12 pm
by BachelorNo2
I'm using x7687x for the first chord, but using the low open E string to get that bolero feel. I'm not sure what Django would use, is he able to hold this chord? On the subject of the astuces book, are you working from the second one? I think Angelo Debarre's solo is just fantastic. I prefer his playing in the astuces book than some of his other recordings!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:23 am
by Elliot
That must be the next best choice, although I'm covering the A and D strings with the middle finger and hoping that working through the pain will do me some good....provided the pain ever goes away, that is...

But yeah, both books. Anything from Angelo is pure gold, especially something rootsy like a waltz or a bolero. Even the simple versions are elegantly done.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:02 pm
by joef
Try using 022444 as the first chord . It allows you to put in the descending line as per the Django record i.e.

022444

022434

022424

regards

Joe